Therefore, all the mages are dead and can no longer help you. First Enchanter Irving is found during the final battle against Uldred at the top of the tower, if you choose to save his life that is. If you have not yet completed the mage tower you are experiencing a bug I have not seen reported yet. User Info: plucky Other Answers. Far as I know the tower doesn't get "fixed" until endgame though I can't say that for certain, since I haven't finished this particular playthrough yet.
Well, my first playthrough, I got the mage's help. Second playthrough, I chose to kill Connor since I opted to let Jowan go. There aren't any massively huge story impacting changes that I've experienced. I think it only affects things with the ending. The best part about chosing Connor is getting the option to punch out Isolde. About the same thing happens if you choose to sacrifice Isolde, Alistair gets pissy.
In either case there is really no change to the main story-line. If you go this route, be sure to clear out the upper parts of the castle first before entering the fade. They will quickly be confronted by undead. The chapel across the hall holds an elite greater shade with a few lesser minions, and a book. The other room nearby is the armoury, which is locked and contains a variety of weapons and armor.
If you have promised Owen to find his daughter, go to a small square room at the eastern end of the corridor, where you will find Valena. To the east more corpses will be encountered.
Kennels north of the hall contain several mabari , one is elite ; these will only attack if approached. However, if you enter the kennel, you will find a kaddis , a collar and a Lamb Bone for Dog. Before going further, watch out for traps.
South of the corridor, a door leading to the main hall is impassable; another leads to more undead. Beyond are stairs to the castle's cellar. The next section of the basement is a single room providing passage to the courtyard. Here a considerable fight awaits - shambling corpses and skeleton archers for the most part, as well as a revenant.
A lever just left of the gate may be activated before, during or after any fight - allowing Ser Perth and other knights those not lost during The Attack at Nightfall to join the fight. Once the knights are inside the gates and the fight is over, you may advise them to hold the courtyard or proceed inside. Either way, entering the main floor triggers a cut-scene. A cutscene leads to a fight against a group of dominated guards, led by Teagan. Connor runs away during this battle, and after the battle Teagan is himself again.
What happens next depends on what you did with Jowan. Once he's present, Jowan says the easiest solution is to kill Connor, but there is another possibility; a mage could enter the Fade and kill the demon there. He says he could use blood magic to do it but someone would have to sacrifice themself.
Isolde volunteers, but Bann Teagan leaves the decision up to you. If you have no mage companions and your Warden is not a mage either, you will have no one to send into the Fade this way and thus, it's not an option. If you have not completed Broken Circle or you have completed it and gotten the mages' support, there is another option — going to the Circle Tower and asking for the mages' help. This is the only way to save both Isolde and Connor. You can now also explore the rest of the castle if you go that route asking for the mages' help at the Tower.
Isolde says that Jowan may know something of this demon; when you tell her that he is gone she asks what happened to him. It doesn't matter what you say to her; neither Teagan nor Isolde know what to do. Morrigan or Wynne , or a magi Warden will suggest that there is another possibility besides killing Connor; a mage could enter the Fade and kill the demon there. This would require many mages and a lot of lyrium. If you have completed Broken Circle and sided with the mages, or have not started Broken Circle yet, then you can suggest getting the Mages' support by doing the ritual using lyrium and not someone's lifeforce, the only way to save both Isolde and Connor.
However, if you have completed Broken Circle and sided with the templars then this is not an option, forcing you to either take Jowan's offer or kill Connor. Teagan wants you to decide what to do. If you decide to do Jowan's ritual now via sacrifice , then you will not be able to explore the rest of the castle , at least not immediately, and once you return from the Fade, all enemies in the castle are gone.
Tell him you need more time to consider if you don't want to go that route. Should you choose any other option, you're free to explore the rest of the castle. Go west, where six Suits of armor will instantly attack you. Any knight that entered the castle with you will join the battle if you fall back and get their attention.
In the room to the south are the Chamberlain and some enraged corpses and shambling corpses ; the Chamberlain has the Redcliffe Vault Key , required to unlock the vault upstairs. Go upstairs. In the rooms before you find Connor, you are attacked by devouring corpses and shambling corpses , more chances to pick up Corpse Galls. You can find:. In one of the north-eastern rooms you find Connor. You can converse with him to learn more about his situation and his plea "to stop the bad lady from hurting anyone else.
Also, if you try to enter the Arl's Bedroom north of Connor, he will immediately transform into a desire demon. At this point you have to make a decision on what to do with Connor.
You can tell Teagan and Isolde of your decision if you want, but it is not required. If you tell them:. Either talk to Connor until he transforms, or try to enter the arl's bedroom. The desire demon will block all exits from the room. The demon attacks with Area of Effect spells, making single-target attacks during cooldown. It has high health but the AOE spells can easily be avoided as long as the group keeps moving.
First the demon summons 3 devouring corpses and 2 enraged corpses , and disappears. These devouring corpses disappear after the demon is dead, so search their bodies as soon as possible to get Corpse Galls. Then my warden gets to Redcliffe, sees Connor's condition and her only choice is Jowen. The man who started all of this, why on earth would she give him any chance to do more damage?
So no, imo it's not ruthless or sadistic. If you play it a certain way it's tragic and a huge blow for the warden who feels they have no other choice. Coupled with a lovely scene with Isolde when you go upstairs and kill him. Sometimes playing the game and letting a 'bad thing' happen can lead to wonderful storytelling, and with Connor bring it home to the Warden everything that is being sacrificed in the hope of victory. Yeah most of my heroes in DA that I've created only kill if they have to in self defence.
Same with Cauthrian towards the end of DAO. Even when Alistair kind of objects I explain to him that we would only be reinforcing Loghain's belief about us if we attack her. But then you get the opportunity to escap eand then convince her to stand down later if you choose that route thereby sparing her which is better all round I think.
But I guess it depends on the kind of character your RP'ingI may play that kind of character at some point but haven't as yet. How do you justify killing Connor without metagaming? User mini profile. By Qun00 - Mon Apr 11, pm.
Qun00 Status: Offline. By ArcadiaGrey - Mon Apr 11, pm. She was devastated to find that it had been annulled. By vbibbi - Mon Apr 11, pm. By Apo - Mon Apr 11, pm. Apo Status: Offline. By Deadly dwarf - Mon Apr 11, pm. Deadly dwarf Status: Offline. By robmar - Mon Apr 11, pm. By Yumakooma - Mon Apr 11, pm.
0コメント