You will still get killer bid from the rest of the plant. If there are sacks everywhere then you have a bummer plant. It might just be worth it to start over. The plastic teeth are angled and much more gentle on seeds. I highly recommend picking up some bubble bags for your trim anyway.
Waste not want not. Just take the seeds out. You must be logged in to post a comment. Next Stunted Growth and Droopy Leaves. In the past, people did not care whether a cannabis plant was dioecious or monoecious as both were used to make fiber and they ate seeds.
But when they started smoking, they removed the seeds. This is why they preferred female plants because they had fewer seeds. Most cannabis plants these days have a well-defined gender. However, some varieties still show hermaphroditism. Find out if you can smoke a hermaphrodite cannabis plant in this guide. It is the one that has both masculine and feminine features. As such, they produce flowers, seeds, and thick buds that make the cannabis plant less effective.
These plants look like female weed plants, only they are slightly smaller. Note that the process of acquiring hermaphroditic traits will slow their growth process. Early signs of a Hermie plant are that the pollen sacs are different from those of normal marijuana plants. They have an elongated yellow appearance, which is why some people call them bananas. If you notice sacks of bananas growing in your cannabis plant, it is likely a hermaphrodite.
Also, hermaphrodite weed plants that produce flowers have so many seeds inside and on the outside of the bud.
Hermaphrodite weed plants form for a variety of reasons. One of them are genetic factors. My day job consists of studying the mental health effects of cannabis in my role as a mental health case manager at Kaiser Permanente.
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Last updated May 11, And that means understanding the difference between male, female and hermaphroditic plants. If not, they won't probably produce any seed, very few at most.
Some strains will develop bananas no matter what you do, but sometimes too much light can make plants to develop some male flowers. Have you noticed if they grow mainly on the lower parts of the plants? Normally, you can count a minimum of 4 weeks for the seed to develop since the male flowers release the pollen and pollinate the female flowers. Paddy Mak How do I prevent hermaphrodite from developing in a stealth cannabis landrace crop in Africa?
Dani Alchimia Hi Paddy, Unfortunately, hermaphroditism is a genetic trait so the only way to prevent it is using pure males and females and remove from the crop any plant with hermie traits as soon as possible. Best of luck! SteveO Thank you so much Dani, you hit the nail right smack on the head! That's exactly what I thought. And just as you mentioned this ECSDH plant does, exactly that , it threw about three or four bananas, and I plucked them out and it only made about 25 30 seeds on only the few bottom branches that I consistently kept up with as to prevent any others from getting hit.
I got ridiculous bud , I mean the most perfect lemon lime dank diesel flavor, all along with a small handful of feminized seeds that each costs 15 bucks or so, that I now don't have to buy. I know that there could be some of them that have other negative genes but I gather , like you said, I believe that most of them are going to be good ones.. So I made out good with this one I think, thanks so much for getting back to me on this , I really appreciate it, as even after 12 years ,,,,,,,I Still Learn!
As I always say It only produced about 25 30 seeds. According to a site on the web this signifies feminized seeds.. I s it possible that this plant , just so happened to produce for me a few fem seeds? They look good and the bud that was produced by this plant was incredible, not wanting to get rid of plant due to its performance.
The four or five times I've run this plant it does the same thing. What do you think? Like I mentioned , the seeds look nice , solid, light brown with tiger striping. Thanks Dani! Dani Alchimia Hey SteveO, Nothing to worry about, many Diesel genetics develop a few seeds during bloom I've grown the SD Riri cut for 8 years and it happens with that one too. Since they're not real hermies, you have a chance that most of these seeds will be females.
The Riri cut develops very few bananas if it does on the tops of the plant. Glad to see you around dude! Donavich Donavich here, I started my growing almost 2 years ago. Recently I was given aseveral budded boxes of plants that had not only turned male and pollinated the entire plants but the strain that was produced has 35 different strains in it.
They are a Sativa, Indica and medicinal, high in cbd. Well as I just found out, the ones that have grown so far are all feminized. But alas, all good things come to an end. I had for the first time seed production in half of one plant.
I took the seeds off the plant because they were located by the female pistals. Will this plant would you think be alright or will it sprout pollen sacks?
So confused. Dani Alchimia Hi Donavich, Whenever you find seeds in your plants it means that one or some of them have developed male flowers and released pollen. Some genetics Diesel, Kush What you need to know exactly is what plant is releasing pollen and check whether it is a female that develpos few male flowers or it is a true hermaphrodite plant you should get rid of it if it is the case. I know it is hard, but you should identify this plant and remove it from the grow.
I have the strain East Coast Sour Diesel Haze from connoisseur genetics, and it is total lemon fuel pine funk , I nailed it this time. I have had no hermi issues at all any more, thank God. Well I did extremely well with this plant and none of the other plants went hermi or anything , but the Ecsdh did throw off a few seeds on a few of the scrap buds , only a few here and there on the lower end , so it wasn't really hermi-ed out the tops are perfect , in fact most of the bud is killer and seedless athough I did end up with a small batch of what appears to be full healthy nice looking seeds.
What do you think these seeds will be. Hermi seeds? Remember I mentioned it was just a small tad of the plant that did this on the lower end, on a couple scragglers. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Dani Alchimia Hey SteveO!! Glad to see you here again, dude! Do not worry about finding some seeds, many phenos of this genetic line often develop a few beans. Since these seeds come from an auto-pollination of female plants, they'll more likely be females than males. I'd try them for sure!! Tyler I have a plant that was very thick but the branches never really grew.
It's the size of a cotton candy on a stick , it had very short fat fan leaves , the plant never grew with the others but is way beyond thicker. Nobody knows what exactly is wrong with it.
Dani Alchimia Hi Tyler, If it is only one of your plants, it could probably be explained by genetics. Sometimes, you see plants with deformations or plants that simply don't grow as their sisters do.
Does the plant look good and healthy? SteveO You hit the nail on the head Dani. I mean you named two of the ones that actually do not want to hermi. I am getting ready to set up my 3x6 flood table with 70 gallon rez in my 4x8 tent loaded with Strawberry Cough , Bubba Kush, and Og, wheepphhheewww does it smell ripe in here : I am going to have that lit up with two watt Mars 2 leds on each end with a watt hps in the middle. And my 5x5 grow box,,,I am setting up a 4x4 botanicare flood table in there that just fits perfectly as so al the light will be on pant material and nowhere else , just hammering the plants.
ILighting up the 4x4 table will be the Illumitex ns equiv and the new lec a light that is documented to produce more resin production per square ft than ANY other light or spectrum on the market so they say, and after playing with this light for the past week.
I think it is going to do just that. I expect to see some serious production here soon. Not very stable, but there is a pheno with dry wood scent and strawberries background that is delicious.
We also tried the Chocolate Rain interesting phenos also , the Grand Daddy Purple which I already grew once, I love the effect of that one and what resulted to be the best of all, a Kush x Cookies hybrid. That last one produced one of the finest hashish I've ever smoked, absolutely spectacular: Speak soon!
LordElSupremo Male pollen sacks, called nanners, will actually grow inside a female bud with no way to see them. And fertilize that bud. I'm also looking for a low-hermaphrodite strain. Some of these hiders can also be visible, but tucked underneath small buds lower on the branches. You have to lift the bud up with your finger to see it. One male flower very concealed. It's a pain in the neck. As you say, there are strains which seem to be specialist in the art of hiding male flowers, so we should always check carefully all buds, nodes, etc.
Normally, old school strains like Skunk 1 , AK or the Super Silver Haze in this case, feminized are known for being stable and clean from hermie traits. Best vibes! I now have set up two watt mars two lights at the opposing ends of my 4x8 tent with a air cooled watt illumitex hps right smack dab in the middle. I found that ANY light even the little led light on the plug bar can illuminate a dark room and cause havoc.
Now when you go in. And guess what gee now I seem to not be getting any seed issues or pollen issues. Thank you Alchimia for taking the time to correspond with me to the end helping me dial in this troubling problem I had.
Never did you ignore me , so I want to say thanks guys , particularly Dan Alchimia and no doubt Papa Indica. You guys are stand up dudes. Thank you. Now My flower room is wreaking so much toward the end of flowering , I don't think I have ever hit it this solid before. You guys have a great year , can't wait to hear how your next years grows go. I have this light. I tried it out in the veg and I can tell you it makes t5's look bad and that is saying something. Take it easy buds. Light leaks can cause problems, I usually cover any light extension lead switches, etc.
Btw, that Lec system looks amazing, can't wait to hear your review on it! All the best, and happy new year!! Dani Alchimia Happy new year my friend, all our best wishes for !!!
Papa Indica Hey guys, long time no talk. I used to use only LED's, I ended up making the switch to T5's and HPS mainly because of LED replacement costs, for the price you pay they never seem to last long enough for me and I can't afford having to replace units so often. I'm very happy with the results I'm getting now but, the last LED I was using for flower was a beast. I had a Chrome from Lighthouse Hydro and I was getting bigger, fatter, denser, and just plain nicer buds than a guy I know who was using a w HPS, if it hadn't started going to hell on me I'm sure Id still be using it.
That being said, I AM getting more weight now than I ever did before, I'm quite happy with my lighting. Sounds like things are getting better for you SteveO, glad to hear it. It seems like too many people are too accepting of male flowers popping out on a lot of these new strains that are out there, I'm not one of them. There was a time when breeders were breeding for the love of the plant, now it seems most of them are doing it for the love of money, more concerned with cashing in on the new gold rush than preserving the genetic pool of this plant we love so much.
OK, enough of that rant. I'm starting to get a pretty good collection of stuff going, considering how much I can handle anyway. I've been fortunate enough to make some good friends, one in particular, that want to send me clones of good stuff, cutting out the pain of pheno hunting for me, which can be difficult to do when running small numbers all the time.
Also have some good stuff going from seed that was also gifted from a good friend, that would be the first thing on my list. I also have a bunch of seeds that I've accumulated in a pretty short time and I have more clones coming my way very soon.
One thing coming my way very soon is Dream Beaver. Of course I'm running clones from all this stuff to make sure not to lose keepers, things are coming together for me. I also just recently changed up my nutrient line-up, I was using FoxFarm but, they are over-complicated, over-priced, and hard to really get dialed in. I've changed that tea recipe ever so slightly from what I told you Dani.
Alright, enough for now. I hope you all are well and your gardens green. Pretty nice collection of strains you got there, I'm sure you'll get at least a couple of keepers from it!
I completely agree with you in regard with breeding, many people only look for quick money and understand breeding as seed production. I have a superb Kush x GSC Forum cross own selection which develops few male flowers at the lower parts of the plant during the late stage of flowering. I'm trying to use it as parent for some test crosses, but will definitely have to remove that trait from the equation.
Please keep us updated on your selection! I decided to see if I planted them what would happen. I germinated them successfully and now they are in pots as of today.
I thought I had done my research enough, but now I'm concerned. Are these seeds going to turn into hermaphrodites, do you think? I didn't invest a bunch of money into this process for this reason.
Dani Alchimia Hi sm, Not at all, they are not always hermaphrodite. Bag seeds come - obviously - from a female plant with or without hermaphrodite traits and an unknow parent with or without hermaphrodite traits. This gives us plenty of combinations in which the offspring will be either hermaphrodite or not. Normally, the female parent is not hermaphrodite, but we know nothing about the other parent, the pollen donor. Well, this unknown parent can be: a pure male if the female parent is also pure, there should be no hermaphroditism on their offspring , a reversed pure female if the female parent is also pure, all plants from the offspring will be females , an hermaphrodite female the offspring is likely to be hermaphrodite , an hermaphrodite male the offspring is likely to be hermaphrodite or a reversed hermaphrodite female the offspring is likely to be hermaphrodite.
As you can see, we can get hermaphrodite offspring in many cases, although some of them are rare. The only way to know if your bag seeds are good is growing them; this is a good idea if you want to select a plant from few seeds and do not want to spend money, but any professional grower would take that risk in large crops, since you do have a chance to get hermaphrodite plants which could pollinate the whole crop.
SteveO Yep, you should get rid of all your hps and get just illumitex. I just recently had to try the Mars out due to price , spectral output, power usage , efficiency , led power and beam angle, which the mars combines two different beam angles one at 90 degrees and the other is like I believe this means they cross and the light is being spread at different diameters, pretty wicked, after now having these mars for a couple weeks now, which the mars operate with fans to cool the lights as well as heat sinks, where the illmitex is passive , no fans period and the Mars blows out hot air as far as I am concerned out the sides.
I will say the mars are quite bright , actually bright to where you simply cannot look into them, where as the illumitex you can pretty much not that we should be doing this. Just sayin that the mars in brightness seems to outshine the illumitex although the results from the illumitex are unlike anything I have seen so far for the small 4x 4 area it illuminates.
It is the Ns not the Larger one the Ds. That's the one to get, it will undoubtedly outdo a watt hps , I am very sure of this. And the chlorophyll production will blow your mind. I haven't had my bud blood to set my flowers in the past two gardens and the illumitex seems to do another thing they claim and that is flower onset is quicker. I have at one end of the tent a 8 tube t5 then in the middle I put the illumitex ns watthps comparable light , and on the other end a mars two watt light all new equipment, and under the illumitex , are the monsters, and everywhere else is mediocre in comparison.
Only thing is I have not given the new three different Mars lights I just bough a chance yet to see what they will do. I actually just got them.
I got their and two 's the uses watts of electric in my 5x5 grow box I built which I removed my watt hps which seemed to be too much anyway, and so This cut the electric in half right off the bat , but now with the Mars I can Turn Off the flower switch , which I only need while I'm scrogging is the grow part of the light anyways , and this as well reduces the amount I am used to using even more. So Right now I have the in there, ,,,,ok I admit it , I also put another one of the 's in there too, guilty, but like I said no matter , still using an enormous amount of less electricity form the move to leds.
So I have this light in there with a G Labs OG13 their version of OG-kush and I took this plant and bent let it grow and stretch to almost 3 ft and beaffy and then opened her up and bent all the stems over and tied her down around the dripper bucket and turned a plant that was receiving a square ft worth of usable light and turned this plant into what is now almost 4 ft in diameter , absolutely incedible, and now I am starting to flower her into a second layered scrog, this shts gona be sick.
Well know soon enough. Good hearing from you. If you can scrap up the extra few bucks , get the bigger one , the ds , totally baddass.
If I land a dcent enough tile or stone job , I most likely will be getting the ds. Most likely wont be too long before that happens. They say that the illumitex will out perform the t5's , now that I will have to witness. Talk to You soon, good hearing form you, where are You Papa Indica? It is a pitty that some very useful LED systems have fans on them, since many people want LEDs precisely so they don't have to use extractors and thus reduce noise, and these small fans are noisy as hell.
SteveO Well , Here are the results I have come up with. The illumitex has literally taken hps and put it to shame , straight up. I have never seen buds blow and become so dense until I found this light. I also went ahead and bought a few mars , one watt mars 2 , and twoother watt mars 2's , and it seems there is nothing so far that compares, although the mars haven't had enough time yet.
After breaking down the math in absolutely every possible way , from 3 watt led's to 5 watt led's , from rail lights to box lights, lights made by usa engineers, and lights made by Chinese Mars which have been for decades the ones that most growers use cause mars lights are inexpensive , they are super bright , and use low power, I checked platinum led , advanced led, Apollo led, you name it I checked it out, and the illumitex Ns only has 54 Surexi 5 watt led's ,that's only watts of led light and it will guarantee-ably out-do a watt hps in my opinion.
How is it that this light does this when all the other lights all have to project at least about led watts to come even with a hps while the illumitex does it with only watts led. My 5x5 grow box I built , I took the watt hps out of there and put in a watt mars two in its place , I then took a og kush in a dripper bucket, allowed the plant to stretch a bit to about a goo 2ft tall then took all the branches and bent then over and tied em up to create a plant now 6 times the size, let it veg a couple weeks and now it is about 4 ft in diameter still scrogging through the net , once I fill the 5x5 , I'll be flowering her into the second net.
I'll bet I pull almost a pound off this one plant. The mars two only uses to veg and to flower , again cutting my electric in half in the grow box. Now I will have no need to run three ac units nor do I have to run ducting all over the place, as well most of the leds now a days allow you to flip a switch from veg to bloom so I never have to move or change the light in its place, ohh did I also mention , I don't have to buy new bulbs every 9 months.
I also noticed that I have found a few flowers on my bubba kush and my og I read that many strains will have a tendency to throw out a couple or a few male flowers just to try to keep itself going genetically. I can tell you that my bubba kush and og are almost done flowering and the buds are so dank it is unreal. I was shocked to see the couple flowers pop up.
I guess it's no big deal , as long as it is only a couple or a few. Don't you think. The mere idea of not having to deal with high temperatures in the grow tent is just too tempting, especially when you say results are even better than with HPS lamps.
About the flowers, I wouldn't worry much about them; many strains develop male flowers at later stages of bloom, Kush and Diesel lines are known for that. Most times, it is just unfertile polen, so nothing to worry about. I'm glad you are getting good results now Speak soon!!
SteveO So far Strawberry Cough and a few others are looking great. I can't emphasize enough the quality and good quantity of chlorophyll production, definitely beating the HPS, just tellin it how I see it. The illumitexNS so far is , without question , in my mind going to outperform the watt hps, and I think quite extensively.
What is being said , IS actually true, the flower onset is extremely quick with the leds, and the chlorophyll , ohh , and the bulk of the flower being produced is exceeding the hps. I'm going on around third week , maybe a touch more and the plant variety I have in a 4x8 grow tent are DNA Holy Grail Kush, Reserva Prevada OG one of my absolute favorites, Skunk 1, Strawberry Diesel, Bubba Kush, Kong Diesel This one is one very tasty gem , its a shame no one can get the seeds anymore anywhere , same thing is happening to, strawberry diesel, and pineapple funk.
I had just ordered seeds and got e three strawberry diesel seeds ,just before they stopped selling them. The breeder doesn't have those strains anymore I am being told, but SteveO;s got each one of em thank god. I'm gona try and see if I can get them to make me some fem seeds. I'm gona research how to do it.
Tomorrow I'm supposed to be getting two Mars two lights ,,,one No one can tell me that the scientists of today didn't have any of this technology years ago. Dani Alchimia Hi SteveO, Dude, you should try to keep cuts of all those strains, you got some really interesting things there!
We usually make feminized seeds with silver thiosulphate, although there are several ways to do it. Best of lucks with your project! SteveO Well guys, I hate to tell you but the product ,"Reverse" is worthless. The RP SD turned again, only this time I have them in a controlled grow bow with so much intake air ,I can't see how it will affect the garden next to it with the Strawberry Cough.
I am just moving on to new plants. This one is just not going to stabilize. Wish me luck that nothing else gets hit. I've got some badass plants coming along.
One of them is OG by G labs. It's their version of OG kush, well I have trained her and trained her and now she is huge almost ready to scrog and take the place of the RPSD. Now this run should be incredible. Talk to You soon. I'll most likely get some bud from the RPSD but most of it is drying up , shutting down from flowering and starting to become dusty. Not good. But SteveO's not gona get had this time I'm in the drivers seat controlling all the air now..
Thanks for telling us about this product, any opinions on products are more than welcome. All the best for your next run with the OG, do not forget to tell us how it goes SteveO Oh yeah, I have them going over a batch of Strawberry Cough, OG,Holy Grail Kush , Strawberry Diesel and the plants chlorophyll production is far beyond what you see with hps, and its not the nitrogen, this is straight up chlorophyll and the resin and how amazingly oily the stems get from the intense chlorophyll production.
It did this just like adding Bud blood, I can't believe how fast everything is going with them under the leds,,, very fast I lolli-popped all of them big-time and now the monster heads are forming already.
Should make some fist sized Strawberry Cough Nugs,,, I'll bet that I also end up with hash tips ,,, I just got a feeling seeing the amount of chlorophyll being produced. Dani Alchimia Hi SteveO, Thanks for the report dude, I've been a bit sceptical about LEDs for years, especially for flowering, but I've seen really interesting systems lately and I'm getting curious now.
Hope you'll get good results with the Illumitex, it's one of those systems that is making me think about trying in the near future. SteveO That's bud? That looks crazy. I don't think I have ever seen anything like that before.
This Reserva SD in my 5x5 grow I tarted it with gallon rez , put in SensiBloom Ph perfectshmerfect, and it worked in 5 gallon buckets but when I went to mix a proportionate amount of nutes and water , it would only bring the ph down to like 6.
Sometimes it can simply be so hard to resist a little rub and smell of a flower. I just noticed over the years that touching the pistols is not good for them. Yeah I have to tell you, I grew up in Florida n a golf course, learning how to play and actually working on the course itself cutting grass , building massive flower planters, I as a teenager worked on like five country clubs doing this work so I gained quite a green thumb to some extent.
In my garden , you will not see a bug, nor will you find any leaves on any plant that doesn't look flawless, it is just my overzealous impatience that gets me every time in the flower.
I need to sow it down and take more time to really ,, well,,, just take my time. And I need to start timing a good flush for the plants instead of dimming down the nutes slowly. This time I'm gona let the RP SD go for right at about 6 or so weeks and then just straight water till I see the leaves change and trichs are right.
Man , as I write this I can't stop thinking of that pic of your bud. That is ridiculous. This Time in the 4x8 tent with all the led action going on I have two 2x4 trays in there, and I just lollipoped every plant all the way leaving just tops literally, just a few days ago and now being under these leds about 12 inches the flowers are clearly beginning and I think I may end up with some fist size rocks of Strawberry Cough.
This plant I received installing a custom stone Master Bathroom designed by myself for the homeowner so he gave me this strain of Strawberry Cough , well he had it going and I swear , the end result was exactly that, these huge fist sized buds , solid and dense, and coated with goo.
I just had to have it. I just got em in there so I'll let you know how they end up. Tonight I took a Pineapple Funk from Holy Smoke Seeds, you should check out the pics of that bud, the buds are human size in the pics they advertise with, so I grew it in a dripper bucket and , now just made some Bho with it and the flavor is indescribably mouth watering.
I had completely no idea I would get that kind of quality result fro that plant.
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